Hello everyone and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday, July 25th, 2022 and I'm the host of the show, Kara Santa Maria and this episode is the last in a series pretty much the last four

episodes that I recorded in advance of a surgery that I had earlier in the month

so I am pre-recording this intro, but it is airing today on July 25th.

Next week I will be back, I want to say live, but it's not actually live. I still pre-record, but within the week instead

of, you know, a month in advance and I'll give you guys all an update about how I'm doing.

For those of you who sent kind messages on social media, I really do thank you. And for those of you who sent kind messages on social media I really do thank you and for

those of you who continue to support the show on Patreon by visiting patreon.

dot com slash talk nerdy I thank you as well I will get back to reading out individual patrons names next week

but I do hope those of you who support the show are utilizing those perks

including listening to ad-free episodes of the show.

All right, let's dive into today's episode.

So I have the opportunity to chat with Lena Zelldovich. She is a writer and editor and she specializes in the journalism of

solutions. She's won several journalism awards and she's written for a ton of different

outlets like the New York Times, Reader's Digest, Smithsonian,

Popular Science, Scientific American, Atlantic, and Newsweek.

And she's got a new book out. It's called The Other Dark Matter,

the science and business of turning waste into wealth and health.

Yeah, talking about poop people. It's going to be a good one.

So without any further ado, here she is Lena-Zell-Devich.

Well, Lena, thank you so much for joining me today.

Thank you so much for inviting me.

I love talking nerdy about shit.

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