Let's take a look at the experiment.

Today I'm Sean Ramos from But today we're bringing you the experiment.

The experiment is a new show from the Atlantic and WNYC.

And if you listen to today explained regularly, which you do, you'll hear a lot of great

journalism from the Atlantic on the show.

And even occasionally you've probably heard great journalism from WNYC on our show,

you've talked to innumerable journalists from the Atlantic and a few from WNYC on our show.

And they're both collaborating on a new show all about the ongoing experiment that is our

country, the United States.

Our attempt to find a more perfect union.

And this episode we're bringing you today is all about who you could call the original

anti-vaxxer.

He's a guy who didn't want to get the shot and ended up at the Supreme Court and sort

of changed our country.

And you're going to like the episode and you're going to want to find the experiment where

ever you listen to your podcasts and hit that follow button I'm told or that subscribe

button or whatever button continues to give you the free shows from the experiment.

Enjoy.

Hello, this is Robin.

Hi, is this the Swedish Lutheran church in Cambridge?

We haven't been that in a very long time, but yes, I'm the pastor of faith Lutheran

church.

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