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The Oracle Mueller Hath Spoken

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2019

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan welcomes back MSNBC’s Matt Miller to talk about Mueller’s statement this week, Barr’s ideology, what Trump has accidentally revealed in doublespeak during the aftermath, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello Virginia Heffernan here. What you're about to hear is a teaser for today's episode of Trumpcast,

0:06.0

which is available in full for Slate Plus members only. See how tempted you are now to sign up for Slate Plus?

0:12.5

We've made one in four episodes exclusive to Slate Plus members because they help support the work we do on Trumpcast

0:19.5

and help fund other Slate podcasts like Slow Burn and Charged.

0:24.0

To sign up and hear this episode and every episode of Trumpcast in full, please visit Slate.com slash Trumpcast Plus.

0:32.0

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0:42.0

So sign up now at Slate.com slash Trumpcast Plus. And thanks for listening.

0:54.5

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernan. Before we start, hey, if you got in your Slate Day tickets yet, head to Slate.com slash live for tickets to our day long bash of podcasts,

1:06.0

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1:15.0

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1:25.0

Okay, so there were some years I waited to hear Monica Lewinsky's voice. And for the past two years, I have waited to hear Robert Mueller's voice.

1:33.0

And finally, yesterday at 11 a.m., the Oracle spoke. Mueller's voice, it turns out, is less melodic than Lewinsky's.

1:40.0

And I know some were disappointed that he spoke softly and didn't deliver Henry the fifth the atrix. But I appreciated that he sounded like an actual Oracle, which is to say whiskey, tango, Fox trot.

1:54.0

This is going to take some Greek chorus and Talmudic chorus and Jesuitical chorus, a big interfaith group of interpreters to ever understand what Mueller was saying yesterday.

2:07.0

So Mueller's address would have a precedent that it would seem to be Delphi, home of the first Oracle. Once a civilian asked the Oracle whether he should go to war and the Oracle replied,

2:18.0

go, return, not die in war. But the punctuation wasn't forthcoming. So did he, she, the Oracle mean, go, return, not die in war. Or go, return, not die in war.

2:38.0

We have the same damn situation with Mueller. Did he say Congress should take over the investigation? Did he say he would have indicted Trump for obstruction, except he's not allowed to? Or did he somehow confirm Odeous Bill Barr's statement that he Mueller declined to indict Trump because the case wasn't there?

2:56.0

Go, return, not die in war. Go, return, not die in war. Maybe we'll never know. Or maybe we will. Matt Miller, former Justice Department Flack and best ever freestyle non-JD lawyer, you can find him opining on MSNBC and Twitter is with me today to help me understand what happened when Mueller broke his silence yesterday and what's going to happen next.

3:25.0

Hey, welcome to Trump, cast Matt. Thanks for having me. It is so good to have you back. I want to know what you thought of yesterday's pronouncement from the Sphinx from Robert Mueller who called a press conference. It's really hard to know what to call a talk by a man that's so reticent.

3:43.0

Yeah, and reporters will tell you it's not a press conference if you don't take questions. So maybe not a press conference, but a public statement or a review.

3:50.0

Public statement. Yeah, that's right. And on YouTube, you can find video of him addressing table or academy with some kind of commencement address. And that's basically as close as any of the proletariat can get to hearing him speak.

4:03.0

But yesterday we heard his actual voice and his words and his manner. And I want to hear what you thought of it.

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