The One Role Shift That Will Change Your Business and Relationships with Lori Harder
The Chris Harder Show
Chris Harder
4.9 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 29 April 2026
⏱️ 18 minutes
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Summary
Are you trying to do everything yourself and wondering why growth feels so hard? You're not supposed to carry it all. In this episode, Lori and I share one of the most powerful metaphors we've ever used in our relationship and business: the cross-country bike ride and the support van. We talk about how switching roles at the right time has been critical to our growth, and why trying to do both at once will slow you down. Get ready to identify your role, communicate what you need, and build the kind of support that actually helps you scale.
HIGHLIGHTS
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Why you can't be the one "out front" all the time.
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How to communicate your needs so people can actually support you.
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What it looks like to switch roles in relationships, business, and friendships.
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How to outsource your "support van" when both partners are in a growth season.
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Why support isn't optional if you want to grow sustainably.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You are always either the person doing the cross-country ride or the person driving the support |
| 0:07.0 | ban and you have to know which one you are. You cannot do the cross-country ride forever. |
| 0:14.9 | And it's not rewarding to sit back and just drive the support ban forever. That is the key to a good marriage |
| 0:22.4 | or a good partnership or being a good friend or being a good business partner, knowing which |
| 0:27.2 | role you're in honoring it and then letting the other person thrive in theirs. |
| 0:36.8 | Welcome everybody to the Chris Harder Show where we are making you unapologetic about your pursuit of success, knowing that when good people like you make good money, they can then do great things. |
| 0:47.0 | My name is Chris Harder and several times per week. I will bring you epic guests, solo episodes, and every single tool, trick, and skill set you need to grow your |
| 0:55.0 | business, grow your money mindset, and to grow your wealth to levels that you have never |
| 0:58.9 | reached before. I've ended up in a unique place in life where I've got the experience, the |
| 1:03.2 | connections, and all of the secrets that it takes to be successful. And I'm lifting the |
| 1:08.0 | curtain to reveal it all to you in an effort to help put you in a position |
| 1:11.7 | of abundance so great that you can then be as generous as possible. So let's lock arms and |
| 1:18.0 | let's get started. And we're back with another episode of He Said She Said. All right, before we |
| 1:25.5 | get going, because we're going to talk about the coolest thing ever. I'm going to tell you a story about this guy who's riding his bike across country that we met in our neighborhood the other day and what it has to do with like when you are out front riding, aka running your business in a really big way. Before we tell that story, we got to let you guys know, we've decided to strategically let another group, another cohort of 10 people into our MCM, our |
| 1:46.4 | mentor collective mastermind, which is the mastermind for people that have a business between |
| 1:50.2 | $25,000 and $500,000 per year in revenue. |
| 1:53.2 | Now, this is literally the most supportive mastermind on the internet with weekly live |
| 1:59.6 | calls where we're answering your questions about your business |
| 2:03.2 | on demand coaching. We hired all the coaches on your behalf. We pay the salaries, not you, |
| 2:09.7 | and you get to ask them one on one in their coaches rooms as many questions about your business |
| 2:15.7 | as you need to. There's an AI coach. There is a tech |
| 2:18.8 | coach. There is a social media coach, a podcast coach, a sales coach, a marketing coach, a legal |
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