Welcome to episode six of the Olasky interview.

I'm your host, Jill Nelson.

Today we'll hear Marvin's 2019 interview with author and Bible study teacher Paul Miller.

Miller grew up on the West Coast.

He moved east when his dad, Jack Miller,

began teaching at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia. After graduating from college,

Miller taught at inner city Christian schools in Philadelphia. He eventually started his own school

with a group of parents and served as principal and teacher.

Now he's executive director of C. Jesus. It's a global discipleship mission he founded in 1999.

Two years later, Miller released his first Bible study-based book, Love Walked Among Us. His

second book, A Praying Life, became an instant bestseller.

His latest book just came out this year. J. Kerb explores how Jesus's life, death followed by

resurrection, should form the pattern for our lives as well. His message challenges the part of

American evangelicalism that values winning as much as the broader culture does.

Marvin Olasky joins us now to set up this interview with Paul Miller. Marvin, welcome.

Hi, Jill.

Well, I've been looking forward to this conversation and wanting to talk to you about Miller's books since I saw it won

World's Book of the Year for Accessible Theology in 2019.

What made this book a winner?

Some theology books are high on the ladder of abstraction.

Accessible theology means something that ordinary folks can read and understand and benefit by not just theologians or professional

scholars. And I don't know of any book that is more accessible than this. The J curve, it's very

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