Hello and welcome back to Close Reeds here on the Close Reeds Podcast Network. I am David Kern,

and I am joined by Heidi White and Tim McIntosh. Heidi and Tim, welcome back to the show. Thanks for being here.

Thanks, David. Thanks, David. We are here to answer listener questions. And just now, right as I was

talking, Tim had to hit mute really fast because he sneezed very aggressively without seeming like he knew it was coming.

It was like the timing. I don't think I've sneezed in two weeks and we start the show and I've got to sneeze.

I really think it's very unfair that David can see what we're doing.

Tim and I for our listeners, for our listeners, Tim and I have a not-so-secret conspiracy to try to do this via video.

So we always turn our video on, but David doesn't.

So he is veiled in mystery.

We cannot see him, but he can see us.

Why is any of this weird to you?

I mean, I don't understand why you know.

The veiled in mystery part.

At this point, I have, it's been years and years of me proceeding this way, guarding

the veiledness of my mystery.

The man behind the curtain, David Kern.

And if I start just revealing all of this,

then you won't see how much time I spend on Twitter during the podcast.

It just feels so good to be known, though.

See, now we already know.

Fair, fair.

Yeah.

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