podcast is sadly not a visual medium, but Evelyn's backdrop is fantastic. There's a there's a Lego piano. There was a small Yoda that just appeared. It's very nice.

Yeah, you know, it's what you do to entertain yourself when you're in lockdown by yourself for 18 months, you accumulate a lot of Lego friends and possessions apparently.

You're giving off a lot of good whimsy energy, which is a really good fit for the vibe of the show.

It's one of our favorite energies.

I've been doing a lot of job interviews lately, so I don't know if whimsy is exactly the vibe I've been meaning to go for, but professional but fun.

Yeah, professional.

Is it a terrible stereotype to say that when I think of Australians, whimsy is in fact one of the first adjectives that comes to mind?

Not in an unprofessional way, but I do I do think of there is something I think fundamentally whimsical about Australia.

Fantastic. As long as it's not like cool guns and drunkards and crocodile dandy, whimsy, whimsy is much better.

Hello everyone. Welcome to rational security 2.0 aka rational beast and where to secure them.

I'm here with my co-host Alan Rosenstein. Say hello Alan. Hello and Quintet Jurassic. Hi, I like that title.

I was pretty proud of that title. People don't think of it as a sequel, but it's basically a sequel. Let's stop fooling ourselves.

Arguably a prequel I guess. And we're very excited to have our special guest, Evelyn Duac, co-host of Arbiter's of Truth with Quinta, among many many other capacities, which I will say for putting a link in the show notes.

Thank you so much for joining us here today, Evelyn.

Good day, great to be you.

How does it feel to like not be have the reins of the law fair podcast? Usually you have your, you know, iron grip on the subject matter and a flow.

And this is it. You're totally letting it go. Are you terrified? Are you scared what's going to happen?

Yeah, no, I please be gentle on me Scott as an absolute control freak. I this is I feel very vulnerable and just be nice.

No promises, no promise opposed to where it goes from here. Well, we have an exciting set of topics here to talk about this week for the nothing to be thankful for addition.

Because as folks will soon hear it is a bit of a bummer of a week and we have a set of a bummer of topics to talk about going into this most thankful of a holidays.

Topic number one, getting written house. A jury has recently decided to quit 17 year old Kyle written house of all charges, including murder charges for shooting two men and what he claimed was self defense during last summer's unrest in Kenosha Wisconsin.

And this response has triggered a public backlash. What does his trial and its aftermath tell us about the intersection of politics and our criminal justice system.

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