Lawfare Presents: Chatter, a new podcast from Shane Harris and David Priess
Rational Security
The Lawfare Institute
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2021
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
Introducing Chatter, a brand new podcast from Lawfare. Weekly long-form conversations with fascinating people at the creative edges of national security. Unscripted. Informal. Always fresh.
Chatter guests roll with the punches to describe artistic endeavors related to national security and jump into cutting-edge thinking at the frontiers where defense and foreign policy overlap with technology, intelligence, climate change, history, sports, culture and beyond. Each week, listeners get a no-holds-barred dialogue at an intersection between Lawfare's core issue areas and something from Hollywood to history, science to spy fiction.
On this, the debut episode of Chatter, Shane Harris interviews a great American: the creator of "The Americans," Joe Weisberg. Joe shares his journey from the agency to Hollywood, his work as a lifelong student of Russia, and his new book Russia Upside Down: An Exit Strategy for the Second Cold War.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there, rational security listeners. Scott Anderson here, bringing you a special treat |
| 0:05.4 | here on our usual feed. A bonus episode of Chatter, a new podcast from Lawfare, co-hosted |
| 0:11.7 | by Lawfare's David Priest, and former rational security host Shane Harris of The Washington |
| 0:16.2 | Post. Chatter is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth discussions with fascinating people at |
| 0:21.8 | the creative edges of national security. And in this episode Shane sits down with someone |
| 0:27.1 | who fits that description to a T, former CIA officer and current television writer and |
| 0:32.0 | producer Joe Weisberg, who is perhaps most famous for creating the hit spy show The Americans. |
| 0:39.2 | Enjoy and be sure to add chatter to your pod catcher so you don't miss any future episodes. |
| 0:50.8 | Welcome to Chatter, I'm Shane Harris. This week, Joe Weisberg, the creator of The Americans |
| 0:56.7 | on What We Get Wrong About Russia. |
| 1:00.6 | Are you joining the CIA so that you can write stories about it later? And I wasn't joining |
| 1:07.2 | the CIA for that reason, but once they asked the question, I was my brain was like, huh, |
| 1:11.9 | I probably will get a lot of good material here. They assumed it like me. Everyone was |
| 1:17.5 | there because they wanted to be James Bond or George Smiley and kind of one by one the |
| 1:21.9 | light went out of our eyes as we saw what it really was. |
| 1:27.2 | Joe Weisberg, welcome to Chatter. Thanks Shane, it's great to be here with you. |
| 1:31.2 | So most people listening to this podcast will know you as the creator of The Americans. |
| 1:37.5 | And if they're listening to this podcast, it probably was one of their favorite shows |
| 1:42.3 | in recent years. Some of them may know that you worked for the CIA for a few years earlier |
| 1:47.8 | in your career. I suspect very few of them will know that you're a lifelong student |
| 1:53.0 | of Russia. At one point in your book, you described yourself in college as a junior |
| 1:57.3 | Sovietologist. So you read about this in the book, but tell us a bit about how it is that |
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