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The Documentary Podcast

The night Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

It was a night of intense negotiation which would change the world order as Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons. Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil after the collapse of the Soviet Union. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to denuclearise. Clive Myrie examines what was at stake in Budapest in 1994, how the deal was finally reached and how it went on to shape the world we face today.

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0:00.0

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0:06.0

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0:12.0

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0:17.0

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0:22.0

One long night in December 1994, Ukraine took a gamble with its national security.

0:29.0

After a journey to disarmament which lasted several years, the country negotiated away its huge arsenal of nuclear weapons.

0:37.0

Budapest memorandum. It occurs December 5, 1994, but they were about four years of drama leading up to it.

0:46.0

Flanked by heads of state from America, Britain and the Russian Federation.

0:51.0

President Leonid Kuchma signed an agreement which made Ukraine officially a nuclear-free state.

0:59.0

And with the stroke of a pen, the world suddenly felt a safer place.

1:03.0

Skeptics once claimed that the nuclear threat would actually grow after the Soviet Union dissolved.

1:09.0

But because of the wisdom and statesmanship for the leaders who joined me here, the skeptics had been proven wrong.

1:15.0

Nearly 30 years on, the Russians have invaded Ukraine and the nuclear threat could be back.

1:21.0

I'm Clive Myrie and you're listening to the night Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons on the BBC World Service.

1:32.0

When I was a boy growing up in Britain in the 1970s and 80s, the nuclear threat felt very real.

1:39.0

The people who survived, especially in the context of nuclear winter.

1:42.0

You could protect people from the effects of fallout. You could have, you could build shelter.

1:46.0

The Cold War was at its height, anti-nuclear campaigners camped out on the streets and countries prepared their people for what to do in the event of the four-minute warning.

1:56.0

The time has now come to make everything ready for you and your family in case an air attack happens.

2:02.0

There are even films imagining what Armageddon would look like.

2:07.0

Come on, quick, get down!

2:14.0

And it really was the stuff of nightmares.

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