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🗓️ 23 January 2020
⏱️ 36 minutes
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0:00.0 | BBC Sounds Music Radio Podcasts |
0:04.8 | What is Boris Johnson up to in number 10? |
0:09.4 | A former senior conservative asked me the other day, he's not done any of the things that |
0:15.3 | you would expect in the immediate aftermath of a general election triumph. |
0:21.4 | No big speeches, outlining his plans, no list of policies handed to the papers, as yet |
0:28.8 | no reshuffle. Indeed, not much of anything at all. |
0:34.2 | Some think that that is because he may turn out to be like Gordon Brown, a man who put all his |
0:39.2 | energies in getting into Downing Street and didn't really have a plan for what he do when he got |
0:44.8 | there, others, including me, think he's thinking and planning. And we will see soon after Brexit, |
0:54.6 | a big Johnson speech, a big Johnson reshuffle, and then we'll begin to get an idea of what this |
1:02.0 | government is really about. The thing that people are going to discover over the next few years is |
1:06.7 | the primalistra is an intensely pragmatic politician. Actually, what he wants to do is affect, |
1:11.4 | you know, change and do it in a way that actually things really happen and change for the better. |
1:15.8 | That's my guest on political thinking this week, the culture secretary, Baroness Morgan, |
1:20.3 | Nikki Morgan, more from her in just a moment about the Johnson government, her own journey from |
1:27.0 | ardent remainder and rebel to on-side Brexit here, and her decision to quit the House of Commons |
1:34.9 | and to quit frontline politics. Incidentally, forgive me in modestly noticing that Lisa Nandy appears |
1:43.1 | on political thinking one week and is next hailed as the coming answer to Labour's problems |
1:49.6 | and potential future Labour leader. I'll forgive her everything, even calling me daft when I |
1:56.0 | asked her a question she didn't much like on the today programme because, a poll this week of Labour |
2:01.2 | members asked them for their favourite Labour leader. What before I give you the results, |
2:06.4 | who's your favourite Labour leader? I think there are different leaders who've done different |
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