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The Greetings Parish Orphans and Retrogrades. Timothy Gordon here with a special treat for you today.

Mr. Edward Penton, one of my longtime favorites, National Catholic Register, and EWTN.

Mr. Penton, welcome today. You need no lengthy introduction. Hope you well.

It's kind of you, Tim. Good to meet you at last and be on the program.

You too. Yeah. The strange thing about doing what we do is that you meet lots of friends, as it were,

that you talk to on DM or text message or on Skype telephone or something without actually

meeting face to face so hey you know what I've said before and I'll say it again like the lost

years of Obi-1 Kenobi in form and matter in body and spirit Mr. Edward Penton.

It's a kind. I said they got that. Yes. I mean his body and spirit, Mr. Edward Penton.

It's a kind. I don't think of that.

Yes.

I mean, his mien, his approach, his equanimity, and a little bit the looks as well.

I said kind of episode 3.5, Obi-1 Kenobi himself on Catholic Reportage. No, it's, it's, I've watched you for a long time, man, and I know that my viewers are all people that admire you and Raymond. And it's just, it's really an honor to talk to you. And now that you have this book out, the next Pope, people are probably

asking you, for starters, what do you know about the end of this pontificate, which you don't

know anything necessarily? No, in this book is not really about this pontificate. It is all about the next one and it's it was written really to get to allow the Cardinals

to have the full breadth of who they could be voting for and all the details at hand so

that they can make an informed decision.

Obviously we've got 19 candidates that's a rather small percentage of the full College of Cardinals,

but we hope that it will provide that necessary information for them and give them what they need to make,

as I say, a good informed decision. Because that has

been the problem in the past, that they haven't had the details, they haven't had the information.

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