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Coffee House Shots

The next Brexit battle

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Daily News, Politics

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2022

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

The Foreign Secretary has outlined fresh legislation to change the post-Brexit trade agreement with the EU today – allowing ministers to override parts of the Northern Ireland protocol. Whilst the government insists that this is not a breach of international law, critics remain unconvinced.

‘I had one member of government say to me this bill is going to be a proxy on Boris Johnson’s leadership’ - Katy Balls.

If this were a proxy, could this work in the Prime Minister’s favour? And why has the government not used the safety valve in the protocol itself which is to trigger Article 16?

James Forsyth speaks to Katy Balls.

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0:15.9

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots.

0:19.0

It's Monday evening and it's a beautiful blue sky here in Westminster,

0:23.6

but a rower is brewing over the Norman Arn push for the government today,

0:28.7

published its legislation on the matter, and also its legal justification.

0:34.1

The EU has responded by implying that it's going to restart legal proceedings against UK

0:39.2

government. The Irish has spoken about this action taking relations to a new low.

0:45.1

Katie, what's your sense of things? How quickly could we be heading for a route?

0:51.2

Or is this going to be one of these kind of slightly tantric UK EU routes and then it goes on

0:56.3

for ages before reaching a climax? James, I never knew it would say the word tantric

1:01.9

on Coffee House Shots, but I have to say if we're looking at where this bit is going,

1:07.6

I do think it might be the more apt description in the sense that it does feel so

1:11.9

going in for a long battle. And I think what's been quite striking to me is if you

1:17.5

think about the internal market bill, which I think was 2020, you had a situation where

1:22.6

Brandon Lewis stood up in the chamber and he said it did break international law

1:27.1

in a limited way. And this time around, the government is at pains to say it does not break

1:34.4

international law. We understand that Hany General has given advice to the fact that

1:39.8

it is actually in keeping with law because of the Good Friday agreement.

1:44.9

And if you look at Brandon Lewis, the Norman Arn and Secretary's interviews over the weekend,

1:50.4

all again stressing this point. So in many ways, it seems that the government is trying to play

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