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Code Switch

The News Beyond The COVID Numbers

Code Switch

NPR

Society & Culture

4.614.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2020

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, numbers have been flying at us about the spread of the illness—and then the next minute those same numbers are refuted. This week, we're talking to Alexis Madrigal at The Atlantic about why the data is so all over the place, and why that matters, especially for people of color.

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0:00.0

I'm Jean Tembie.

0:01.0

I'm Shireen Marisol Maraji and this is Code Switch.

0:04.6

From MPR.

0:05.6

The death toll from coronavirus has jumped dramatically tonight.

0:08.6

Well you know when I listen to the press every night saying we have the most, we don't have

0:11.9

the most in the world death toll.

0:13.4

There are now should be between one and a half to two plus million tests per week.

0:18.5

We're going to study out from Harvard this morning that says we're going to need to be doing

0:22.6

something like five million tests a day in early June.

0:26.6

Those are flying at us about the coronavirus and then the next minute those same numbers

0:31.0

are being refuted.

0:32.0

Listen, so what the hell are we supposed to believe?

0:34.6

Well a bunch of people Jean have made their unofficial job to collect the official coronavirus

0:40.0

data and make it available to all of us and it may not surprise you that what they're

0:44.4

working with is a hot stinky mess.

0:49.0

It does not surprise me.

0:50.4

No.

0:51.4

And their fearless leader is a humble staff writer from the Atlantic magazine named Alexis

0:56.5

Magical.

0:57.8

That is really what this project on a meta level really points out I think is just the

1:02.9

lack of reliable data when decision makers have been trained to make data driven decisions.

1:11.0

All month long as you know we've been telling stories about one of the most important data

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