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I'm Deputy Edo Helen Lewis, and this week I talked to Raphael Bear and George Eaton

about millibandism, welfare and the fate of Nick Bowles.

Then I talked to Ian Stedman about the Dangleway and London transport and

finally Sophie McBain Ian and I talk about a future without antibiotics. The I'm joined by a political editor Ralph Albert and George Eaton, editor of the Staggars.

We're going to talk mostly about Labour this week.

So let's start off first with Raffaff you wrote a piece about the kind of

what's the big idea and your thesis essentially is that there is now a defining kind

of project that Ed Miliband has been on his mountaintop thinking about.

And you mentioned, so tell us about what the kind of three clanks of that are.

Yes, well essentially the criticism of Ed Miliband has always been that he sort of got the job by accident and that the sort of

labor went down to the leader shop and came back with the wrong-sized milliband

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