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Tees and sees apply. New Statesman Podcast. I'm Deputy Editor Helen Lewis

and this week I'll be talking to George Eaton about Ed Balls and the economy

Raphael Bear will be interviewing Ryan Shorthouse of Bright Blue

about Tory Modernisation and I talked to Laurie Penny and Ian

Steadman about online abuse. I'm doing by George Eaton, the editor of The Stagers, to talk about, well, first of all, let's talk about Ed Balls.

You interviewed the Shadow Chancellor this week.

He offered you a mince pie. He seemed in good spirits.

What else did you find when he talked to him? Yes, as you say, he was in good spirits and I

thought I might find a rather techie figure. I mean balls had quite a difficult end to end to his year with a lot of criticism

around. Yeah. Yeah.

universally panned I think his movie critics put it. Yes and that started off a new wave of speculation over his

position but he seems you genuinely relaxed and I think fairly confident that his

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