From WNYC Studios, it's Brian Lair, a daily politics podcast. It's Wednesday, June 15th.

Back with us now, Emily Bazelon, staff writer for the New York Times Magazine, co-host of Slate's Political Gap Fest

podcast, and Truman Capote Fellow for Creative Writing and Law at Yale Law School. She has a

detailed new piece out this morning in the New York Times Magazine. Yes, the magazine comes out

on Wednesday, if you see it online. It's only the Sunday magazine anymore in the print

edition. An article about the debate over gender affirming medical treatments for teenagers,

and no, this isn't about the right-wing culture war backlash, which we talked about last

hour, though that factors into this story in some ways. But this is a debate from within the

medical community that provides care for trans teenagers

who seek to transition.

The title of the piece is The Battle Over Gender Therapy.

We're also joined by Scott Liebowicz, a child and adolescent psychiatrist, co-lead of the

Adolescent Chapter of the New chapter of the new standards of care

from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health or W-Path.

Dr. Lieberwitz formerly led the LGBT Committee of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent

Psychiatry.

So, Emily, great to have you as always. And Dr. Lieberwitz,

welcome to WNYC. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. Dr. Lieberwitz, I want to start

with you. Emily's story details the debate over a new version of the W-Path standards of care,

which you co-authored. By way of background, what types of guidelines have previous versions of the

standards of care set for clinicians? Oh, thank you so much for having me. The World Professional

Association of Transgender Health has been in existence since 1979, publishing guidelines

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