Are we yes? Where are we here? Why are we here not entirely clear? We are misfits thrust into existence by random chance with no hints at all as to how we're supposed to make sense of it all. It's immensely bizarre. Here we are.

Hello everybody and welcome to the here we are podcast today. I have guest Scott Barry Kaufman with me and we're going to be talking a bit about his book Transcend the new science of self actualization and he's written several books the past. He has tons of tons of great like Ted talk and a bunch of great YouTube video. I just started watching one Scott.

That was about working from home that you made I found like some seven minute thing and you had something on there about like you know tidying up your space and everything and I watched it just before this and I'm now looking at this studio which on camera looks very pristine and I'm looking around at everything in the background.

And I'm like, Oh, this is a sad person that lives in this space. This is a different yourself. Yeah. Yeah. This this person's life is a disaster is what I'm looking on another outside of it as I as I watched your video about like make the space neat and tidy.

But anyway, the point is what I see you look like you he looks very clean from what I see right now. Yeah, look at this facade that I'm able to put together and then after this I I hit stop on the record and then apparently then I just live in clutter all of the rest of the time.

Scott, why don't you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself? Oh, she's where does where's one begin?

What's your background? You've written a bunch of books before you have a whole you have a whole backstory of kind of you you have some really compelling you have a compelling backstory about kind of learning differently.

And school not being the right fit for everyone and and then and then you in your new book you're kind of expanding on Maslow's hierarchy of needs a bit.

And so yeah, give us as long as you did a good job. You did a really good job telling my story. Well, I mean I well, that's your life, Scott. That's been the show everybody.

She's she's like you know you were you stupid when you're kid and then you wrote this book and then now you're done. But I am I you know I'm a humanistic psychologist. So I'm really interested in how we can you know find a life of meaning and vitality feel like we're really self-actualizing and little life to the fullest.

I had some you're right. I had some terribly early childhood experiences that made me think that we're not really realize we're not appreciating the potential in in our students.

Especially the kids and special ad there are just kids of learning disabilities, you know, no, there's all sorts of kind of different. We're just learning disabilities. I'm really a big advocate of the neuro diversity movement.

I'm a big advocate of comedy. I love comedy. I have a dream of doing stand up someday.

Really? Oh, absolutely. It's been a long time dream of mine. But I just think like neuro diversity is so linked to comedy. Like I find like all my friends who are like autistic are the funniest people, you know, like and again, it's because they just like they take things literally, you know, and and don't don't care about rules, you know, about like societal social rules of what you can and cannot say.

So I find that awesome. I think that potential there, you know, among neuro diverse people.

That's an interesting perspective. I was just kind of thinking about what what good comedians do. And a lot of it is you go to you go to it. Well, so here's there's two types of comedians, one that panders to the crowd.

And then another that like pushes some buttons a little bit. There's more types than that. But those are the types that I was thinking about when you go to a crowd usually usually go like, hey, here's here's the here's the town over that everyone thinks is stupid.

Here's the like wacky street name that everyone in this town knows in like a comedy club will even have these things on on a list for you. Like, hey, mention here's our governor.

Here's the sports colors that they green just say green and gold and they'll just start clapping and and if you're pandering, that's the pandering type.

The other type would be like, I fucking hate green and gold. Those are the two colors that I just can't stand.

And then so I get into that area. But then I also be like, hey, why are we, why is every town doing this arbitrary thing? Because what all you got to do is you go to like a you go to a truck stop.

And if you if you want the cheat sheet, you just go to like the you just go to a big old truck stop somewhere and you just go to like the bumper sticks sticker and merch section of the truck stop. And you just like, oh, here's the things.

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