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Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

The New Science of Self-Actualization | Scott Barry Kaufman

Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

Dr. Michael Gervais

Sport Psychology, Finding Mastery, Mental Health, Mindfulness, Business, Self Help, Michael Gervais, Health & Fitness, Mindset, Psychology, Self-improvement, Education

4.71.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2020

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

This week’s conversation is with Scott Barry Kaufman, a humanistic psychologist exploring the depths of human potential.

He has taught courses on intelligence, creativity, and well-being at Columbia University, NYU, the University of Pennsylvania, and elsewhere.

In 2015, he was named one of "50 Groundbreaking Scientists who are changing the way we see the world" by Business Insider.

Scott was a previous guest on Finding Mastery (#078) where we spent time diving into his journey and what made him the man he is today.

I wanted to have him back on because he just published a new book titled, Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization… a bold reimagining of Maslow's famous hierarchy of needs--and new insights for realizing your full potential and living your most creative, fulfilled, and connected life.

And that’s what we discuss in this conversation.

If you’re not familiar with Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, definitely check it out.

The needs are: physiological, safety, love and belonging, esteem, and self-actualization.

The interesting thing with this conversation is the timing.

As Scott mentions, right now our focus is on more pressing needs at the potential sacrifice of realizing our full potential.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

When you peer into the heart of darkness, what do you see?

0:02.6

You see exploitation, the drive for exploitation,

0:06.0

the drive for greed, the drive for power over others,

0:10.4

control over others.

0:12.2

You see excessive excessive self-interest.

0:16.6

Now, so what is a light triad?

0:18.4

So a light triad incorporates treating people

0:22.3

as an end in themselves.

0:24.6

You can admire the sacredness of a person

0:26.5

even if they're very different from you

0:27.7

or even if they don't serve any usefulness for you.

0:32.1

You can have a general faith in humanity that humans are at the end of the day

0:37.3

basically good even if they often don't act that way and then you can also the third component is humanism

0:46.8

treating every individual as valuable. Okay, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast.

1:04.0

I'm Michael Jervay, and by Trade and Training, I'm a sport and performance psychologist,

1:09.0

as well as the co-founder of Compete to Create.

1:12.0

And the whole idea behind these conversations, behind this

1:14.8

podcast, is to learn from people who have committed their life efforts towards

1:19.6

mastery, to understanding the depth of what they are most curious about.

1:25.0

And there's two parts it.

1:27.0

There's the mastery of craft and the mastery of self.

1:30.0

And we're indexing a bit more on the mastery of self-side, which is how do they organize their inner life?

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