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The President’s Inbox

The New Saudi Strategy, With F. Gregory Gause III

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News:politics, News

4.4734 Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

F. Gregory Gause III, a leading scholar on Saudi Arabia and an associate fellow at the Middle East Institute, sits down with James M. Lindsay to discuss the evolution of U.S.-Saudi relations as Saudi Arabia navigates its role in a Middle East with a more assertive Israel, a weaker Iran, and a less predictable United States.   For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/presidents-inbox/the-new-saudi-strategy Opinions expressed on The President’s Inbox are solely those of the host or our guests, not of CFR, which takes no institutional positions on matters of policy.

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0:00.0

A new Middle East is emerging.

0:02.0

A dictatorship has fallen.

0:04.0

Lightning fast rebel offensive ending 50 years of authoritarian rule in Syria.

0:09.0

New partnerships are forming.

0:10.0

A historic deal brokered by the US to normalize relations between the UAE and Israel.

0:15.0

Citizens are rising up.

0:17.0

Thousands of Iranians have been protesting as a dire economic crisis takes a heavy toll on their

0:22.5

daily livelihood. And new players are arriving on the scene. Saudi is now posing up to China to strengthen

0:28.5

bilateral and economic ties. These changes have consequences for the United States, and particularly

0:34.2

for its 80-year relationship with Saudi Arabia. The Arabian monarch goes aboard the president's cruiser

0:39.2

centered on the potential American development of the oil concession granted by the king.

0:43.8

What began as a grand bargain of Saudi oil for American security

0:47.8

has evolved into a complex network of sometimes contradictory interests

0:52.2

as Saudi Arabia's crime print seeks to claim a more

0:55.2

influential role for the kingdom in world affairs.

0:57.8

Saudi Arabia's crown prince accused of ordering the murder of a Washington Post contributor.

1:02.5

The International Criminal Court to open an investigation into war crimes and crimes against

1:07.1

humanity committed by the Saudi-led coalition.

1:10.0

How are U.S.-S.-Saudy relations adapting to

1:12.0

these changes? Can Washington still count on Saudi Arabia as a critical ally in one of the world's

1:17.2

most volatile regions? From the Council on Foreign Relations, welcome to the president's inbox.

1:24.0

I'm Jim Lindsay. Today I'm joined by F. Gregory Gauze, one of the world's leading

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