Pushkin. The new pornographers have never been easy to pin down. Since forming in Vancouver in the late 90s,

the band became one of the defining acts of the Canadian indie rock explosion. The part of a scene that also produced

Nico Case, Destroyer, and a generation of artists who seemed to operate entirely outside the commercial

mainstream. Co-founders Carl Newman and Catherine Calder have spent more than two decades making

records that are densely layered, relentlessly melodic, and somehow both euphoric and melancholic at the same time.

Their latest album, The Former Site of, draws on a different kind of raw material.

Part of it came from a friend's terminal illness in the weight of watching someone you love wrecking with time running out.

Part of it came from something more unexpected, the last remaining payphone in New York

City, which became a kind of anchor image for the record, a physical object standing in for

everything we hold on to after it stops being useful. On today's episode, Bruce Headlam sits down

with Carl Newman and Catherine Calder to talk about what their new album came from,

what it's like to make something beautiful out of grief,

and how the Canadian music scene that shaped them still runs through everything they do.

This is Broken Record. Real musicians, real conversations.

This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

It's Michael Lewis here with some exciting news.

I have a new audio book coming out on October 6th called Blockers.

It's among other things, an inside look at the early days of Trump's Department of Government

Efficiency, or Doge, as it's referred to, as told by the public servants it entangled.

But it's not just that.

One kept Americans' most sensitive tax data out of the wrong hands, and another made sure

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