Pushkin.

One of the most important artists of my life is Tupac Shakur.

One of the earliest memories I have, in fact, of watching music on TV

is seeing Tupac Shakur on S&L and then Biggie, not that much later.

But since Tupac died in Las Vegas, there's been all kinds of conspiracy surrounding his life and

death and his legacy's been picked over in ways that feel kind of demeaning to his music

and to who he was as a person. So I've always avoided any interviews that have anything to do with

Tupac. That is, of course, until Mo Prim Shakur, Tupac's half-brother, put out his new book, This Thug's Life. Mo Preen, himself is a rapper, filmmaker, and record producer living at the intersection of revolutionary politics and hip-hop. He's also one of the only surviving members of Tupac's group outlaw mortals and the only surviving member of

Tupac's other group, Thug Life. He was raised along with Tupac in the tradition of Black liberation

activism and shaped by the streets of Queens and also the stages of the world, not just with his

brother, but with his own groups and also, believe it or not, with Oakland's own Tony, Tony, Tony.

Mo Prima is one of the only people you can go to to get the truth about Pock.

And for the first time, Moprim is telling his story.

It's the first ever insider account of the Shakur family, a book about brotherhood, survival,

movement building, and of course, the making of Tupac's legend.

This is Broken Record.

Real musicians, real conversations.

This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed human.

Here's my interview with Mo Prime Shakur.

Yo, there's so much to say.

You got to come over for dinner.

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