The New History of a Famed Expedition
RadioWest
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🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Support for the Radio West podcast comes from Harmon's Grocery, committed to excellent service and friendly smiles. |
| 0:06.6 | Your food is our passion. |
| 0:12.2 | When he became president, Thomas Jefferson wanted to expand the country's territory. |
| 0:21.1 | And his idea of exploring the continent's west had been this lifelong obsession. |
| 0:25.7 | And this is how we got the Lewis and Clark expedition. |
| 0:28.3 | It's the subject of Craig Fairman's new book. |
| 0:31.5 | Freeman says there was this tension at the heart of the story. |
| 0:35.2 | Jefferson wanted expansion, but he also said he respected the sovereignty and land rights of native people. |
| 0:42.0 | And to understand how this story takes shape, |
| 0:44.4 | Freeman says you have to go back before the expedition itself to the early years of the Republic |
| 0:49.4 | when the big questions about land and power were first being worked out. |
| 0:54.9 | And one of these moments comes on February 25th of 1793, |
| 0:59.4 | when President Washington had gathered his cabinet at the president's house in Philadelphia. |
| 1:06.2 | And this is where Fairman says one of the central questions of the early republic is being asked, how a new |
| 1:12.3 | country, which is still defining itself, would understand its relationship with the indigenous |
| 1:17.7 | nations who already controlled much of that land. At the center of it was a tension that |
| 1:23.9 | would run through everything that followed between the language of sovereignty |
| 1:27.7 | and the pressure of expansion. |
| 1:31.2 | Here's Craig Fairman. |
| 1:33.7 | So in this meeting, George Washington is president, and they're kind of figuring things out, |
| 1:38.8 | not just what they should do right now, but what kind of precedence they're setting for |
| 1:42.8 | America going forward. |
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