I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WB EZ Chicago.

Join me as I share how the genre began, their social impact, and why these stories endure.

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From WB.EZ Chicago, this is Nerdette. I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend. Today, we are going to revisit a topic that I find endlessly fascinating. It's a little mini-series we started last year called Nerdy Jobs. Now, what I love about these conversations is that they are a peak into a totally different career than your own. They're a chance to learn about creativity and craft in a huge variety of fields and about how a person ended up doing something super cool and surprising and maybe even a little bit random.

Today, we're going to listen back and hear from some professional knitters and someone who

watches movies as her job.

But first up is a game designer.

Elizabeth Hargrave is the creator of the wildly popular game Wingspan.

She says it all started when she and her nature nerd friends realized all their favorite board games were about topics they didn't actually care about.

We were like, why are there no games about anything that were actually interested in?

Like, why are they all about castles and trains?

Many of you have probably already played it.

But for those of you, wingspan

nobs out there, here's how Elizabeth describes the game. Each card is a different bird,

and you are playing out your own personal set of birds into this area that's sort of like a park

that you control. And the different areas in the park

let you do different things in the game. So one lets you get more cards and one lets you lay

eggs, which are points. And as you put birds out into those different areas, they make you

better at doing those basic elements of the game.

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