I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WB EZ Chicago.

Join me as I share how the genre began, their social impact, and why these stories endure.

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From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdette.

I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend. Coming up, Abra Barron's tells us why we shouldn't underestimate stewed fruit. I mean, I feel like there's no more elegant way to end a meal than some poached apples that have a little bit of cream poured over the top and then there's like a cookie on the side. Plus the latest in our nerdy job series is a lighting designer for operas.

You really get to just paint on stage. Opera's is really cool. But first, it's our chance to sit

back and unwind from the week that was with two excellent humans.

With us this week, we have Christina Tucker.

She's the host of the podcast, Wait, Is This a Date?

Christina, welcome back.

Hello, hello.

I am thrilled to be here again.

Also here is Margaret Willison.

She is the communications director and faculty for Not Sorry Productions.

Margaret, welcome back to you as well.

Hello, Greta. It's a delight to be here. Okay, I want to talk about succession and we're giving a spoiler warning. So if somehow you do not know what happened in last week's episode and you don't want to know, we're going to talk about this for the next like four-ish minutes.

I would be truly shocked if anyone out there doesn't know this. But in Sunday's episode,

the show's patriarch, Logan Roy, died. It was a phenomenal episode. I think we could spend at least the next hour talking about the acting and direction and writing. I mean, the whole thing,

it was a phenomenal episode. But I would really

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