The Nelson Mandela no-one knew – with Richard Stengel

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 16 December 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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The interviews behind Nelson Mandela’s epic memoir The Long Walk To Freedom are out now as the podcast Mandela: The Lost Tapes. Here, South Africa’s first Black president explains himself in his own words – always inspiring, often funny too. Co-writer Richard Stengel, former Time editor and Obama Undersecretary of State, tells Alex Andreou of his affection for Mandela, how they came to collaborate on books and more, the charm of Mandela’s secretly oversized ego, and what it’s like to work with a giant of history. Hear Mandela: The Lost Tapes exclusively on Audible: https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Mandela-The-Lost-Tapes-Podcast/B0BKMQ8GX8 “This took me back 30 years. I felt like I was back in the room with Mandela again.” “Mandela was very good at flattery. And people who are good at it are susceptible to it…” “He was an incredibly charming, sunny man and the listener can now feel a little of that.” Written and presented by Alex Andreou. Producer Jet Gerburtson. Assistant producer Kasia Tomasiewicz. Lead producer Jacob Jarvis. Bunker music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:12.0	It is hard to eulogise any man to capture in words not just the facts and the dates that make a life but the essential truth of a person, their private joys and sorrows, their quiet moments and unique qualities that illuminate
1:25.8	someone's soul. How much harder to do so for a giant of history. Those were the words of
1:32.2	Barack Obama on Nelson Mandela. My guest today is one of the
1:36.5	foremost captures of words and illuminators of the souls of giants. He's an acclaimed author, former editor of Time magazine,
1:44.8	former undersecretary of State in the Obama White House,
1:48.0	and the man who spent most of 1993 collaborating with Nelson Mandela on the defining biography Long Walk to Freedom.
1:57.2	And now in a superb new podcast, Mandela The Lost Tapes, exclusively in Audible. He presents an extraordinary selection from over 70 hours of his interviews with Mandela that year.
2:09.0	Welcome to the bunker, Richard Stengel.
2:12.0	Thank you so much, Alex.
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