For over 30 years, Point of Grace has shared music, faith, and friendship with listeners across the country.

Now Denise, Lee, and Shelley are inviting you into their circle. Welcome to Circle of Friends.

The podcast is Point of Grace. Each week they're talking real life, current events, stories of true friendship, wisdom from God's Word, and all their favorite things.

If you're looking for a little company, a few laughs, and a lot of Jesus to hold it together, circle of friends.

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This is the Hugh Hewitt show.

Morning, glory and even grace, America.

I'm Hugh Hewitt.

Unless a war breaks out in the next three hours.

And except for my guest, Ambassador Orrin, Ambassador O'Brien, people who are subject matter specific about things,

I'll be talking about the NBA gambling story today because it's huge.

And Congress will be holding hearings.

I don't know which committee.

I don't know how.

But gambling has now hit the front pages so hard that Congress will take notice

and will be back to the K Offer hearing. And if you

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