The Nature Faker Controversy and Peter Hujar's Day with Mason Currey (author of Daily Rituals + Making Art and Making A Living)
INSIDE AND OUTSIDE: Nature + Pop Culture News with Jessica Murnane
Jessica Murnane
4.9 • 651 Ratings
🗓️ 2 April 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we start outside and talk about the Nature Fakers controversy (and how Teddy Roosevelt was involved). Then we talk about Mason's new book and the struggle of making art while also making a living (day jobs, get rich schemes, and family help). And then Mason shares his inside thing - which leads us into a conversation about nostalgia for pre-internet days.
About this week's guest: Mason Currey is the author of the Daily Rituals books — Daily Rituals: How Artists Work and Daily Rituals: Women at Work. His new book, Making Art and Making a Living, looks at how anyone ever afforded to be an artist. Currey lives in Los Angeles and writes Subtle Maneuvers, a twice-monthly newsletter on the creative process.
Show notes!
This week's sponsor: The Working Garden Project
Flower Pressing Class at Paper Canopy
Subtle Maneuvers (Mason's newsletter)
Daily Rituals: How Artists Work
Making Art and Making A Living
Things we talked about:
Peter Hujar's Day (movie)
To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | This season is brought to you by the Working Garden Project. Did you know that 74% of employees struggle to disconnect from work? The significant percentage say that their job negatively impacts their mental and social well-being. And many employees are considering leaving jobs that don't support their overall health. They need solutions. And based on all the positive benefits that we know that can |
| 0:22.4 | come from nature, nature can be one of them. The Working Garden Project is a nationwide effort to |
| 0:28.6 | bring the benefits of nature and communal gardening to workplaces across the country. To learn more about |
| 0:34.5 | how to bring the Working Garden Project to your company, head to |
| 0:37.9 | Working Garden Project.com. Whether your company is big or small, the Working Garden Project |
| 0:42.7 | has solutions to create more happiness, engagement, and productivity in the workplace. |
| 0:48.4 | Again, that's working gardenproject.com. |
| 1:09.8 | Okay. Gardenproject.com. Hello. I'm your host, Jessica Bernan, and this is Inside and Outside and Nature and Pop Culture podcast. I'm a horticultural |
| 1:13.0 | therapist who is equally obsessed with growing plants and watching a ridiculous amount of TV in bed. |
| 1:19.7 | Each week I bring you one piece of nature news. That's the outside part. And then my guest brings |
| 1:24.1 | something they're obsessed with in pop culture. Real quick, that's the inside part. |
| 1:29.8 | Real quick, before we start, I'm hosting a flower pressing workshop at Paper Canopy and Charleston, |
| 1:35.2 | South Carolina on April 19th. This is the second one that I've done with them is so fun. It's a great |
| 1:42.8 | way to hang out, get some social well-being, make something. And if you're not |
| 1:49.5 | really into gardening or outside nature things, it's a great way to work with nature inside. |
| 1:56.1 | I will put this in the show notes. And I'll also be hosting a final growing group for the season coming up in April, which will be virtual. |
| 2:04.5 | Sign up for the Bascar Newsletter, which is at bascargarns.com, or it will be in the show notes to learn about that when it's released. |
| 2:12.5 | All right, today, my guest, Mason Curry. |
| 2:15.4 | It was so fun to talk to him because I've been following his work for over a |
| 2:20.6 | decade. And sometimes when you love an author or an artist and you meet them, it feels Dudsville. |
| 2:27.2 | But Mason is great. He was exactly who I was hoping he would be super kind, thoughtful, and so easy |
| 2:32.9 | to talk to. Mason is a writer and editor and author of |
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