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Okay. Gardenproject.com. Hello, I'm Jessica Mernan, and this is Inside and Outside a nature and pop culture podcast. Each week I bring you one piece of nature news. That's the outside part. And then my guest brings something pop culture related that's inside part. This is definitely more political news, less fun pop culture news. But stay with me. Yes, we miss two weeks, and it's because I had two

guests need to reschedule, and another guest that asked to push their episode by a couple weeks.

So we're back now, and we will be for the coming weeks. Real quick before we start,

I'm hosting a flower pressing workshop at Paper Canopy and Charleston, South Carolina on April 19th.

I'll put a link to that in the show notes.

And it's not too late to sign up for a growing session this season.

I mean, it's never too late, but it's not too late to start planning your garden now.

And as I always say, my sessions are super beginner. So if you

know nothing, that's okay. Most people that I work with have never even bought a pack of seeds

before. So do not feel like you need to know everything to get started. You don't have to know anything.

I want to help you. I'll include link to that in the show notes at

Bastogardins.com. Okay, today's guest is Karen Faith. I'll have to say this episode is a little

heavier than ones in the past. Um, one trigger warning is that we do talk about Jeffrey

Epstein briefly. I think this was a conversation I personally needed right now,

and I'm hoping that you get some things from it too.

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