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Hi, everybody. I am Emily Capitaluppo, senior vice president of research algorithms and data at

Woop, and today I am joined by the incredible Barbara Waxman. Thanks for having me. Thank you so much

for being here. If you're not familiar, Barbara Waxman is a gerontologist, a leadership coach,

a longevity advocate, the founder of the Odyssey Group. And she has done some

really incredible work. She has popularized concepts such as middle essence. So let's start there.

What is middle lessons? Thanks for asking because so many people are in pain and suffering

because when they reach midlife, they think, well, I've made it to the high point

and everything goes down from here when actually midlife, in fact, around the age of 47,

that's one of the lowest points in terms of our happiness in life, according to the U-curve

of happiness.

And the reason that's the case is these are very

fulfilling years. We're making our way in the world. We're proving ourselves. Some of us have families.

So it's a hard slog, but these are fulfilling years. At a certain point, we start to feel like,

you know what, not everything is perfect, but it's

better than it could be, or it's better than the alternative.

And we start to recognize that we're not going to live forever, even though we may live years

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