The Myth of the Dream Job | Simone Stolzoff
10% Happier with Dan Harris
10% Media, LLC
4.6 • 12.9K Ratings
🗓️ 4 September 2023
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Balancing happiness and ambition is a challenge, especially if you often define yourself by your work. Stolzoff covers why it's good to have a job that's simply good enough.
Simone Stolzoff is the author of The Good Enough Job: Reclaiming Life from Work. He is a designer and workplace expert from San Francisco, and a former design lead at the global innovation firm IDEO. His work has been featured in The New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, and many other publications. He is a graduate of Stanford and The University of Pennsylvania.
In this episode we talk about:
- His argument for diversifying our sources for what makes a meaningful life
- How passion for your job shouldn't be a stand-in for pay or security
- And how to balance the pursuit of meaningful work without letting it take over your life
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| 0:00.0 | This is the 10% Happier Podcast, I'm Dan Harris. |
| 0:20.5 | Hello again, one of the central themes in my life and in my work has been the balance |
| 0:25.1 | between happiness and ambition. |
| 0:28.0 | When you boost your calm quotient without losing your professional edge, today we've |
| 0:33.2 | got a guest who challenges a lot of my deep conditioning around this subject. |
| 0:37.5 | I have for better or worse, often defined myself by my work. |
| 0:42.0 | One of the first questions I ask people when I meet them is what do you do? |
| 0:44.8 | I even ask kids sometimes, what do you want to do when you grow up? |
| 0:48.4 | My guest today argues that it is psychologically dangerous to define yourself by your work. |
| 0:53.2 | Now, he is not anti-ambition, it's just that he thinks that for many of us, things are out of |
| 0:58.3 | whack. In particular, he's worried that we often get too focused on the dream job. |
| 1:03.0 | Simone Stahlsoff is the author of a new book called The Good Enough Job. He's a writer, designer, |
| 1:08.0 | and workplace expert from San Francisco. He is a former design lead at the global innovation firm |
| 1:13.7 | IDO and a graduate of Stanford and the University of Pennsylvania. We talk about his argument for |
| 1:18.9 | diversifying our sources of what makes a meaningful life, how passion for your job should not be a |
| 1:24.5 | stand-in for pay or security, and how to balance the pursuit of meaningful work without letting |
| 1:29.3 | it take over your whole life. I should say this is episode one of a big four-part series we're |
| 1:35.2 | launching today called Sainley Ambitious. We thought Labor Day would be a good time to kick |
| 1:39.6 | this thing off. Over the next two weeks, we've got episodes about how to integrate mindfulness |
| 1:43.9 | into work and how to handle big emotions at the office and how to redefine success and more. |
| 1:50.8 | I think you're going to like it. Hit me up on Twitter or via the 10% happier website or the app |
| 1:56.0 | with your feedback. I want to hear it. Unrelated, a little plug here. I want to put in a mention |
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