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Science Vs

The Mystery of the Man Who Died Twice

Science Vs

Spotify Studios

Education, Science, Health & Fitness

4.412.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

A dead body turns up with a stolen identity. This week, we tell the story of how a grandmother tracked down the truth — and helped create a whole new and controversial world of crime fighting. To tell this story, we talk to U.S. Marshal Peter Elliott, Dr. Margaret Press, and Phil Nichols. Check out the transcript here; http://bit.ly/33CNj3i Note: in this episode we discuss suicide and homicide. Please take care when listening to the show, and here are some resources: National Mental Health Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357). National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 1-800-273-8255National Hotline for Crime Victims 1-855-4-VICTIM (1-855-484-2846)  Selected references: Press Conference revealing Joseph Newton Chandler's true identity [SPOILER ALERT]Margaret Press’ DNA Doe ProjectCredits: This episode was produced by Rose Rimler and our senior producer, Kaitlyn Sawrey with help from Wendy Zukerman as well as Meryl Horn and Odelia Rubin. We’re edited by Blythe Terrell. Editing help from Alex Blumberg and Caitlin Kenney. Fact checking by Michelle Harris. Mix and sound design by Emma Munger. Music by Emma Munger and Bobby Lord. A huge thanks to all the people we got in touch with for this episode including Dr. Colleen Fitzpatrick at DNA Doe Project and Curtis Rogers at GEDmatch. Recording help from Selene Ross, Tana Weingartner and Daniel Robison. Also thanks to the Zukerman Family and Joseph Lavelle Wilson.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman and you're listening to Science Vs from Gimlet.

0:06.0

This is the show that pits facts against fugitives.

0:08.8

Today on the show, the mysterious case of a dead man who lived under a stolen identity

0:20.6

for decades, and the controversial science that cracked the case.

0:27.1

And by the way, in this episode, we will talk a little bit about suicide.

0:32.1

So take care while you're listening, and there's resources and numbers to call in the show notes,

0:36.8

if you just want to talk to someone.

0:39.3

Okay, the mystery of the man who died twice is coming up just after the break.

0:45.5

Fancy a fever tree in a glass with ice and rum.

0:57.7

You thought I was going to say gin, didn't you?

1:00.5

But I'm talking about fever tree ginger beer made from three gingers for that perfect

1:05.4

blend of freshness, sweetness and spiciness, delicious with rum or on its own.

1:13.2

Fever tree ginger beer mixed with the best.

1:18.2

Mmm, that spices things up.

1:21.2

Where are you?

1:22.2

Asteroid City from director Wes Anderson.

1:25.2

Welcome to your stargazers and space cadets.

1:28.2

What are those pulses indicate?

1:29.2

The beeps and blips we don't know.

1:31.2

There's an alien that actually happened.

1:34.2

This June, place all witnesses under a group arrest.

1:37.2

How long can they keep us in Asteroid City?

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