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Criminology is a true crime podcast that may contain discussion about violent or disturbing

topics. Listener discretion is advised.

Hello, everyone and welcome to episode 72 of the Criminology podcast. I'm Mike Ferguson.

And this is Mike Morford. Mr. Morford, how are you today?

Doing good. How about you? I'm doing great, man. I have had a good week.

Always get excited to record. There's so much work that goes into the research,

leading up to the day that we record. That's like the ball game. Everything else is practice.

But the actual recording of the episode is like playing the game. And that was always the most fun

part for me when I played sports. Yeah, I look forward every week to doing the episodes that we

pick out and covering them and going in depth on them. So I always can't wait to record in the

morning on when we do the recording. And I think we've had a pretty good mix of episodes.

The one that we're going to talk about today is a lesser known case. But we have some big hitters

coming up in the near future. So starting next week, we're diving into the sun of Sam,

David Berkowitz. And more if I got to tell you, man, this is a guy that has fascinated me for a long time.

You know, just one of those infamous killers that really kind of boggles the mind. It's one of those

where you just want to know what was going on in his head. And it's that part of trying to figure

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