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The Gist

The Murder of Saudi Arabian Journalist, Jamal Khashoggi

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

On the Gist, Impeachment logic games.  In the interview, it's part two of a conversation with Oscar award winning documentarian and director Bryan Fogel about his latest film The Dissident. The film centers around Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi's brutal murder, and its broader human rights implications. The Dissident is available in theaters, and now via premium video-on-demand. Today, Fogel and Mike focus on Fogel's experiences putting the documentary together, and how he got unlikely sources to sit down for interviews. In the spiel, use code RUDY today! Email us at thegist@slate.com Podcast production by Margaret Kelley and Cheyna Roth. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Slack.com slash DHQ. The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:34.3

It's Tuesday, January 26th, 2021, from Slated to Just Die, Mike Pasca. The Senate today

0:44.3

voted to proceed with an impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump. However, Senator

0:50.0

Ram Paul of Kentucky issued an objection on the grounds that it was unconstitutional to do so.

0:56.6

44 of his fellow Republicans agreed. This is not a majority position among scholars let

1:02.5

alone a 90% consensus among experts, not even a consensus among reasonably informed people.

1:10.3

For instance, take Nixon. Judge Walter Nixon. He was literally disqualified after conviction

1:16.3

in the Senate. There's precedence. It happened before. But also think about the other Nixon,

1:22.1

Richard Millhouse. What if the day before an impending vote of conviction, he'd have just

1:27.4

said, now I resign? Then the Senate couldn't say, well fine, but we're also going to disqualify

1:34.0

you from holding office. Their hand would be stayed. I just wanted to say hand would be

1:39.4

stayed. It seems a pretty large flaw. If the only way to impose disqualification is for

1:45.3

those too pig headed to resign, or maybe some who really think they'll win the conviction

1:50.3

vote. What if they resigned the second after the conviction vote took place? They could

1:58.6

run again by the logic of, well, every Republican senator, except Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski,

2:05.0

Susan Collins, Ben Sass, and Pat Tumey. Good on them. Also at issue, supposedly was the

2:11.7

constitutionality of having Senator Pat Leahy preside over a conviction trial and not

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