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The Gist

Illusions, Delusions, and Flat Out Lies

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

On the Gist, you can't trouble us with your labels. In the interview, what is In & Of Itself? The new Hulu special by Frank Oz and Derek DelGaudio is so much more than just a made-for-TV version of DelGaudio's live show. As creators, Oz and DelGaudio discuss the stigma of illusion, an art form which relies on sleight of hand and audience participation, and talk about how they were able to bring to life their special for people sitting at home. Both Oz and DelGaudio elucidate the assumptions around their respective careers, professions which have historically been viewed as sitting lower on the performing arts totem pole, and urge viewers to refrain from taking things simply on face value. In & Of Itself is available now on Hulu. In the spiel, understanding the difference between lies and delusions. Email us at thegist@slate.com Podcast production by Margaret Kelley and Cheyna Roth. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Slack.com slash DHQ. I'd like to warn you about the explicit nature of the show, but I'll

0:32.8

just tint that you know what you're in for, making this an implicit explicit warning.

0:38.6

It's Wednesday, January 27th, 2021. From slate, it's the gist I'm my pesca. So you want

0:47.8

to my take on GameStop, right? You're treating it as a game. Stop! Moving on on the show

0:53.4

today, I should be all about the lies of Joe Biden, why they aren't merely a difference

0:56.9

in degree, even an exponential degree compared to what we live through. But first, Derek

1:02.2

Del Guadio could be the best at his job in America. He has a special out on Hulu now,

1:09.1

directed by Frank Oz, called In and of itself. So, you may have noticed that I got into

1:15.3

the show a little quicker today than I usually do, and that's because I've been thinking

1:19.3

about this interview and this show in and of itself. So, the Hulu special is based on

1:25.2

a live show, which played in LA and then New York City for 560 performances. You walk

1:31.0

into the theater, there are hundreds of labels on a wall. They're all the size and feel

1:38.2

of a coat check tag, and they have descriptions on them, a mathematician, a madador, a blacksmith,

1:45.2

a daughter, the life of the party, an umpire, and you pick one, they come into play in a

1:49.6

specific way later. The entire performance, however, is a look at identity and labels and

1:55.1

the perceptions of what people are. So, the genre, the genre of the show, when I said

2:00.3

Derek Del Guadio is the best in America at his job, that job would be magic, and the

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