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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

The Murder of Nancy Anderson: DNA Technology Leads to An Arrest After 50 Years -

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

On January 7th, 1972, Nancy Anderson, 19, is found dead in her Waikiki apartment with over 60 stab wounds. The case goes cold for fifty years until new DNA technology and detective work leads to the arrest of a suspect: Tudor Chirila Jr.

In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the lack of evidence the crime scene, why Nancy’s roommate thought this might have been a suicide, distinguishing between stab wounds, how phenotyping lead to the breakthrough in this case, and much more.

Show Notes:

0:00 - Intro

2:37 - Background and overview of case

4:15 - How do you investigate a case once it's gone cold?

7:20 - Stab wounds

11:30 - No evidence of foul play at the crime scene

15:45 - The roommate and thinking Nancy had comitted suicide

18:40 - Water running in the bathroom

21:00 - How do you distinguish between wounds?

24:40 - The salesman as suspects

26:35 - Bathrooms as a popular crime scene

30:05 - Blood testing process

35:35 - How do you preserve evidence?

41:17 - What is Phenotyping and how did it help the investigation?

47:55 - Genealogy and a son

49:20 - The suspect is found

50:43 - Wrap up

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0:00.0

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

0:19.8

Back in the late 60s, probably my all-time favorite television show premiered.

0:27.0

I was a little boy, I'd wait on those certain weekday nights for the show to appear and I knew

0:33.6

it was coming on because of the music and then the visuals would just kind of burst

0:37.7

on the screen.

0:38.7

That tiny TV that my mom and I had in our house trailer.

0:42.9

Gigantic waves crashing, exotic land, a place I didn't think I'd ever go.

0:50.0

Still haven't to this day but that show was called Y5O, I was amazed by it.

0:56.6

And you know what, at the end of each show, Jack Lordd, he was a detective.

1:04.2

He solved every one of those cases it seemed like, but you know for almost 50 years there

1:10.2

was an unsolved homicide in Hawaii.

1:14.3

One that was so brutal they would never portray on that television show from back then.

1:18.4

I'm talking about the homicide of Nancy Anderson.

1:22.4

Today, we're going to talk about it and how the case has been solved finally after all

1:27.6

these years.

1:28.6

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is Body Bags.

1:37.2

I got to tell you, when this case came across the wire and I began to read about it, it

1:42.6

turned up all kinds of memories from childhood for me because you know you always felt like

1:46.9

that the police and Hawaii were going to solve these cases that they're confronted with

1:53.1

but you realize that your idea that you have from Hawaii 5.0, from when you were a kid,

1:58.6

that's merely fantasy, that it is the real world out there and sometimes cases just go unsolved.

2:05.6

But now in the world that we live in with all of this technology at our disposal, things

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