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The Consult: Real FBI Profilers

The Murder of Lisa Ziegert – A Conversation with District Attorney Anthony Gulluni

The Consult: Real FBI Profilers

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Talk Radio, True Crime

4.8 β€’ 1K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 6 February 2024

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

On April 15, 1992, Lisa Ziegert was abducted from her job at a card shop and found murdered four days later in a wooded area in Agawam, Massachusetts. This was one of the highest profile unsolved murder cases in the history of the state. In this episode of The Consult, retired FBI profiler Julia Cowley and Hampden County District Attorney Anthony Gulluni discuss this case, and DA Gulluni describes the investigation that ultimately led to the arrest and conviction of the offender in 2019. Music "Light in the Basement" by John Hanske. You can listen to John's music here: Spotify. Follow The Consult: Real FBI Profilers on social media: X/Twitter  Instagram  Facebook  For additional information and resources for this episode, please visit: www.truecrimeconsult.com/the-murder-of-lisa-ziegert-a-conversation-with-district-attorney-anthony-gulluni/  

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0:00.0

In the consult, we discuss cases that are sexually violent in nature. Listener discretion is advised.

0:23.6

Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler.

0:28.6

And today I am joined by a special guest.

0:31.6

He is the Hamden County, Massachusetts District Attorney Anthony Galuni.

0:36.6

Welcome, DA. Thank you, Julia, for having Anthony Galuni. Welcome, DA.

0:38.3

Thank you, Julia, for having me. Happy to be here. And I know in the past, you have told me

0:43.3

to call you Anthony. I cannot. I just, I know you as, whatever. I know you as DA. Maybe like, if I get

0:50.5

Maddie, you'll be like, Anthony,. Anthony or the DA and I go way back.

0:54.8

And I asked him to come on the show today because there's a case that means a lot to both

1:01.6

of us in different ways.

1:02.7

It was a significant case in both of our careers for different reasons.

1:07.3

But we did have a time that we worked together on this case.

1:11.3

And so I wanted to have him on to talk about the abduction, rape, and murder of Lisa

1:17.8

Zegert on April 15th of 1992 in Agawam, Massachusetts.

1:25.5

So DA, I met you, well, I knew you by reputation prior to you becoming the

1:31.2

DA because you were a prosecutor in the Hamden County District Attorney's Office before you were

1:37.2

elected to the DA. So I knew you by reputation, which was good. You had a good reputation,

1:42.3

at least from the FBI agents in our office.

1:45.6

You spoke really highly of you. But I didn't actually get to meet you until after you were in your position as a district attorney.

1:52.6

And having spent much of my career in the Boston division, I was very familiar with Lisa's case because it was one of the highest profile

2:03.5

cases in Massachusetts ever, unsolved cases at the time. Wouldn't you agree?

2:09.0

Absolutely. No question. Especially from my perspective, as a Western Massachusetts resident

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