The murder of Josh Hilberling | Ep 225
Crime and Coffee Couple - True Crime Podcast
Allison and Mike
4.7 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 28 December 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
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Josh Hilberling was trying to leave. At 6'5", the former Air Force serviceman didn’t fit the usual image of a domestic violence victim, but court records, hospital visits, and a dismissed protective order all pointed to a volatile and escalating pattern of abuse in his young marriage. On a sweltering afternoon in Tulsa, everything came to a violent end when Josh fell 17 stories from a high-rise apartment window. His wife Amber admitted to pushing him, though whether it was self-defense or murder remains fiercely debated. Allison tells us the rest of this story that leaves one boy with no parents and two families forever asking what was really going on behind closed doors.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone. Welcome back to another episode with the crime and coffee couple. My name's Allison. And my name's Mike. Hi, Mike. Hey, Al. How are you, Bev? I am doing well. How are you doing? Good, good. You got our little sharky on your lap. She's just looking for some love today, huh? I know. She was sitting in her little bed and she was like head budding me. So I was like, okay, I guess she wants to sit on my lap now. |
| 0:22.2 | Man, I'm scratching her head. |
| 0:23.0 | She's just like laying into it. |
| 0:24.5 | She's not usually like that. She's ready for her nap. And speaking of our little pup, we were telling our bonus listeners that over Thanksgiving, she swan dove off the friggin couch about four feet high because I was yelling at our cat for chewing on one of our |
| 0:38.6 | outdoor plants. |
| 0:39.7 | Yeah. |
| 0:39.8 | So she wanted to go take care of things. |
| 0:42.0 | How dare you? |
| 0:42.6 | With the cats. |
| 0:43.5 | Mm-hmm. |
| 0:43.8 | And she ended up hurting her little leg. |
| 0:46.0 | I had my hands like all up and stuffing and oh my gosh. |
| 0:49.7 | She like rose it up or a little leg or back leg or I call it her driver's side back leg and uh yeah |
| 0:55.8 | it was just like limping up and I was like oh no and in my head of course me first thing I'm like |
| 1:00.0 | man this better not cost it like five thousand dollars this is crazy it's a holiday we can't go to |
| 1:04.8 | the emergency event and let me check chip GPT then I did and turned out chat GPD was pretty |
| 1:10.2 | accurate so yeah so thank goodness we got her in the next morning. So we kept her immobile is what the recommendation was. And then the next morning we got her into the vet. And thank goodness she would just strained her ligament rather than tore it. Yeah. So good news. Now we have to give her shots like every week for now. Twice a week for four weeks. We have to give her an injection for osteoarthritis. He saw that on the x-ray. And she's only five years old. So he said it's very early stages. But if we do nothing, then she's going to start developing, you know, pain and swelling and things like that. So he was telling us about these two drugs that greatly help with the arthritis. |
| 1:49.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:49.3 | One is injected once a month at the vats. The other one, we have to inject twice a week for four weeks at home and then once a month. And she was all hyped up at the vet because she had been there for hours. She had gotten x-ray. |
| 2:01.3 | She'd been sedated. |
| 2:02.5 | So when we tested the injection ourselves, she was like squealing. |
| 2:07.0 | I was profusely sweating. |
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