Hey guys and welcome to the Moms and Mysteries podcast, a true crime podcast featuring myself, Mandy, and my dear friend Melissa. Hi, Melissa. Hi, Mandy. How are you?

Well, I just forgot the introduction to our show, and as you can hear in my voice, I'm a little congested. But otherwise, I'm doing well.

Well, earlier you said it felt like you've been punched in the face. So yeah, that sounds great.

We've come a long way since punched in the face. Oh, good. I'm glad. Yeah, it's that time of year, though, where you get every illness is just lurking around the corner and it's just gross. It is super gross. Yeah. So I have a little cold. I apologize if my voice sounds obnoxious because of that. It sounds obnoxious all the time. Honestly, some people think our voices are obnoxious anyway. That's what I was going to say. If you don't like my voice, you don't like my voice. But yes, I am a little bit sick, but I'm fine. Glad to hear it. Isn't that like the just typical mom thing? I was going to say that sounds just like I'm fine. Yeah, like your arms falling off. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'll go later. Speaking. Speaking of arms falling off, we both have our ailments. Oh, yeah. Of course. Are you talking about this?

I'm talking about your arm falling off.

Oh, yeah.

Who knows?

Oh, and I didn't even tell you this.

So I've got some weird hand thing going on.

Who knows?

But I didn't tell you this.

I had to get labs done this morning.

And at the end, you know, they can never find my veins.

So it's always, and I'm not saying that like, ooh, on. Who knows. But I didn't tell you this. I had to get labs done this morning. And at the end,

you know, they can never find my veins. So it's always, and I'm not saying that like, ooh, they're so dumb. I'm saying my veins are stupid. And it's rolling around. I can feel her moving it around. And at the end, yeah. At the end, I mean, talking needle everywhere. At the end, she said, just so you know, it's probably going to bruise because it blew out at the end.

Blew out at the end.

What does that mean? I don't know. I didn't ask. I just said, okay. And I left. I think the vein blew out. I think it just like, collapsed. Why is this conversation giving me cringe? And I feel like the insides of my arms hurt now. I mean, yours. I'm not like stabbing. I'm having like a psychosomatic reaction to this story. I know. I told my husband and I was like, I was feeling nauseous when she kept moving it around. I don't know why. He's like, because she was moving it around. I'm feeling nauseous right now. Okay, let's leave it alone.

Let's leave it alone.

Mandy, we can get away from this.

All right.

So this episode we have this week is definitely different.

Out of all the types of stories that we've covered, I can honestly say that we have never done a story, even remotely close to what is happening in the story that we have today. Oh, yeah. In the stories that we typically cover, the victim is not a

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