The murder of Garrett Phillips | Ep 241
Crime and Coffee Couple - True Crime Podcast
Allison and Mike
4.7 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 19 April 2026
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
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Garrett Phillips was 12 years old when he was found strangled in his Potsdam, New York apartment in 2011, and within days, investigators had a suspect with no physical evidence tying him to the crime. The case that followed was riddled with misconduct, racial bias allegations, and a key witness whose account was quietly buried. Allison tells us the full story, and the part about what police did and didn't do in those first 48 hours is hard to shake.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone. Welcome back to another episode with the crime and coffee couple. My name's Allison. |
| 0:08.6 | And my name is Mike. Hello, Mike. How are you? Oh, we got a little thumbs up. How are you? I'm good. How are you? |
| 0:15.1 | Good. Welcome to movie phone. I'm glad to be sitting here with my hubby as well as our favorite peeps out there in the world. We hope you're all doing well. And if you're new to us, Mike, you're distracting me very much. If you're new to us, we are a husband and wife podcast. I tell the story. Mike hears it for the first time right alongside with you guys. We've been married for almost 24 years. We have just celebrated your |
| 0:38.2 | birthday. Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday to me. 47 years old. People start saying, yeah, that's you get a little dance. It's not like the dance to that guy elsewhere, but, uh, there was no dance. There's no dance, guys. Allison's not that type. And that's okay. You wouldn't want to see that. It's like when I was watching King of Queens and Carrie was taking pole dancing and Doug thought he was in for this treat and it was just ridiculous. I'm like, that's what I would look like. Like a disaster. It'd be like jumping up and like, oh, whoops. Oh, my lower back. I think I tweak something. Just trying to look like sexy. Right. Not at all. Not hitting the mark. You know, you're a cute young lady, and that's all you are. And that's what you need to be. |
| 1:13.8 | And you are. |
| 1:14.2 | So you're good. |
| 1:14.8 | Good. something. Just trying to look like sexy. Right. Not at all. Not hitting the mark. You know, |
| 1:10.9 | you're a cute young lady and that's all you are. And that's what you need to be. And you are. |
| 1:14.2 | So you're good and good enough. What were you going to say about being 47? People say 47 years young or whatever. It's like, I don't know. I mean, it's old. I'm not old. I'm just like, why do we have to say young. Like, why do we have to, like, try to say, like, sound younger? Why do we fight our |
| 1:27.8 | age when it's just natural that if we're still living and God willing, |
| 1:32.2 | we are, that why do we fight it? Why are we ashamed of our age? Especially I think women really face |
| 1:37.8 | that. They feel that as we're getting older, we lose our value because maybe heads aren't turning |
| 1:43.0 | or we're not getting commented on a physical attribute and our, you know, of ourselves. Well, the boobs are down to the knees, you know. Not mine. No. They're too little to be down to the knees. Yeah. No, it's okay. They're just down to the chest. Yeah. Hey, let them hang. Let them hang, ladies. Whatever you want to do. I don't know why as a society we have shame with aging. Yeah, especially women, man, it's so hard because your whole lives, you're just taught that you're not good enough in advertising. And maybe day to day, too. It's like, well, you don't want to age. I freaking can't stand. There was a billboard that I saw like a year ago. And they were like aging. People say aging is natural. BS. And it said the whole word. And I was just like it's, it is natural, man. That's like part of life. Like it's like a little wrinkles and a little like I, you know, sagging and something like it. It's all like words, obviously, but it's like, I don't know. |
| 2:34.5 | Just I, what's really sexy is embracing it all, I think. I mean, I think you really should. And don't get me wrong. I'm going to do everything I can to fight back. I do my, a lot of products, but you do a lot less than some people and whatever. Everybody's got their own thing. I've personally never had any kind of Botox or fillers or anything like that, but I do use a red light therapy mask. |
| 2:53.4 | I put on those four-hour sheet masks. I'm doing all that stuff as much as I can to keep the wrinkles at bay. And I don't think there's anything wrong with anything you choose to do. But I don't think we should have shame behind it. You know what I mean? And it's just so funny how self-confidence, like you can't see it in somebody else. Like you're like, what do you mean? You're so beautiful. Like I was watching the secret lives of Mormon wives. And it's somebody that I look at and I'm like, well, obviously she looks perfect. And she's sitting with a therapist and she's like, I just have no self-confidence. You know, people online tell me, oh, you look like a man and this and that. |
| 3:28.1 | And I's like, I just have no self-confidence. |
| 3:25.1 | You know, people online tell me, oh, you look like a man and this and that. And I'm like, what my God? You're, you're beautiful. You're stunning. That's the danger. What's her name? Jesse. I'd like to take a look at her. See what I think here. Just, uh, yeah. I mean, she's you know, |
| 3:37.4 | Jesse what? |
| 3:38.2 | Like Jesse. |
| 3:38.5 | I'm not if you just type in Jesse's secret life. |
| 3:40.8 | Secret lives of Mormon wives. |
| 3:42.6 | Lives of Mormon wives. |
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