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This episode includes discussions of murder and assault that some people may find offensive.

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As the sun rises over the state prison in Los Angeles County, a 79-year-old man, hair white and body confined to a wheelchair, is rolled into an interview room.

The old man is weak,

his joints creak, atrophied muscles sag,

even as breathing as he sits is ragged.

Waiting in the interview room is Texas ranger James Holland, handsome, tall and broad

shouldered.

He greets the elderly inmate and they sit down to eat breakfast.

Their conversation is polite, friendly even. This has been their daily

ritual for years.

Once they're finished with breakfast, Holland and the old man get down to business.

A guard brings a sketch pad and a set of crayons.

Though the old man's hands are gnarled with age,

he can still wield a crayon with some skill.

Holland asks questions to jog the old man's memory.

Where was he in 1986?

Who did he meet in Cleveland?

What did she look like?

What color was her hair? What was the shape of her jaw? Her nose? Was it long or short?

Before long a face appears on the page, a woman long dead, her killer, the very man drawing her portrait, a man who

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