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Moral Maze

The Morality of Partying

Moral Maze

BBC

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.5609 Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

It’s easy to see how lots of people singing, shouting and smooching in a stuffy space would keep a virologist up at night. Within hours of nightclubs reopening the Prime Minister announced that full vaccination will be the condition of entry from September. The Netherlands recently tried reopening its clubs and quickly decided to close them again amid rising infection rates. We may be free to party, but we’re not free of the virus. Just because we can, does it mean we should? For some, there is a clear moral case for delaying our gratification that little bit longer. Another view is that we have to start living again; young people in particular deserve an escape after the months of sacrifice, and the fact that every adult in the UK has now been offered at least one jab should be an important part of the moral calculation. Others have gone even further than the Beastie Boys in suggesting we have not just a right, but a duty, to party. Is there an intrinsic moral value in revelry? Those partial to a bit of table-top dancing might argue that these are spontaneous and transcendent experiences of human connection; in theological terms, a celebration of the gift of life itself. Yet, many philosophical and religious traditions have been highly suspicious of hedonistic pleasures. Modern-day stoics and puritans might associate a “living for the weekend” clubbing culture with chaos, over-indulgence and a loss of self-control. Does the truest form of joy lie in self-restraint? Or should we follow Oscar Wilde’s advice: “everything in moderation, including moderation”? With Jeremy Gilbert, Prof Christopher Gill, Olivia Petter and Julian Tang.

Producer: Dan Tierney.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:07.7

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0:12.1

Good evening. Nightclubs have never been the safest places. The dangers of drink, drugs and deafness were always there.

0:18.6

And now they've reopened, add COVID.

0:23.6

For some experts, it's an epidemiological nightmare.

0:29.5

Lots of partially or non-vaccinated young people packed together in a sweltering concatenation of singing,

0:30.7

shouting and snogging.

0:33.5

The cautious cry stop, hold off for longer.

0:35.5

Others say, let's just party.

0:38.3

The young in particular have sacrificed too much of their youth and pleasure is our right. There's a balance to be struck, between freedom and responsibility,

0:43.9

between collective safety and individual enjoyment. A wider philosophical question, too,

0:49.2

about the moral value of revelry. Is pleasure of this kind a moral good, a display of human connections,

0:56.1

a celebration of life itself, as some philosophers have said? Or is it mere hedonism, indulgence,

1:01.9

and essentially selfish abandonment of self-control? Is stoical self-restraint, the moral goal?

1:09.4

Party pooping, or maybe not, moral maize tonight.

1:12.1

The panel, Melanie Phillips, social commentator at the Times,

1:14.8

the libertarian communist, I bet their parties are something to behold.

1:17.8

Ash Sarkar from the Novarra media group.

1:20.4

The historian, Tim Stanley, and the priest and polemicist, Giles Fraser.

1:24.9

Ash, that was a low blow, I know.

1:26.6

But I think maybe you are a party animal.

1:29.4

I consider myself part of the party hard left, shall we say. I cannot stand that strand of

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