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Chasing Life

The Miracle and Mystery of Consciousness

Chasing Life

CNN

Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.58K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Can modern science explain, or even define, the mystery of human consciousness? Dr. Sanjay Gupta sits down with writer Michael Pollan to talk about his new book, A World Appears: A Journey Into Consciousness, and explore the unmapped territory of our inner lives. They discuss where (and if) consciousness lives in the brain, whether plants and artificial intelligence can be conscious, and why we must protect our inner lives in an increasingly technological world.  Our show was produced by Jesse Remedios with assistance from Jennifer Lai. Medical Writer: Andrea KaneShowrunner: Amanda SealySenior Producer: Dan BloomTechnical Director: Dan Dzula Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Chasing Life.

0:05.0

Today we've decided to take on one of the biggest topics, I think, in all of our lives.

0:12.0

What is consciousness and where does it come from?

0:16.0

In a minute, we're going to be joined by one of my favorite science writers, Michael Pollan,

0:20.0

who's written a book about this.

0:22.0

But I got to tell you, this is a topic I think about a lot, consciousness.

0:25.5

In fact, when I was in the operating room having just read this book, I was talking to my fellow

0:29.9

surgeons and residents about consciousness.

0:33.7

That's a very heart of what we do as brain surgeons.

0:37.3

Where does it reside in the brain?

0:39.0

Does it reside in the brain?

0:41.6

That would be dependent on really being able to define what consciousness is in the first place.

0:49.5

Look, I'm a brain surgeon.

0:52.0

I've spent decades of my life studying the brain, and yet I am still

0:56.4

perpetually fascinated by the mystery of sentience. This conversation only deepened my appreciation

1:04.1

for the gift of an inner life and also the interior monologue, the conversation that we continuously have with ourselves.

1:13.6

Is that a conversation we're having with our own consciousness?

1:17.3

I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN's chief medical correspondent, and this to chasing life.

1:34.7

Thank you for joining us.

1:36.3

I always really enjoy our conversations.

1:38.7

I feel like we go in a lot of different directions.

1:41.4

And I read your book.

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