I, in a weird way, ended up sitting in the passenger seat of my own life.

Because I had said yes to all these other things, like all of a sudden I wasn't in control anymore.

Like someone else was driving.

You get all these accolades and you win these Presidents Club awards and they send you off on trips to Hawaii or London or whatever.

And then they give you these promotions.

And you start climbing this corporate ladder.

And you get to this point where it gets scary to look down.

So you just keep climbing up.

My two very close friends, Joshua Fields Milburn and Ryan Nicodemus, better known as the

minimalist on the podcast today.

Nearly four years ago, I got an email

from Josh. The subject line was simply idea. He wanted to make a documentary about something he was

passionate about. My answer was pretty simple as well. Hell, yes. We set off around the country

interviewing with dozens of people who called themselves minimalists. Today, reflect on the film how they made the leap from their corporate careers

to becoming the minimalists full time and we discuss their early struggles as entrepreneurs.

You're listening to The Ground Up Show, a podcast that inspires creatives to make meaningful

content and pursue their

passions. My name's Matt Diavella, and I'm a filmmaker best known for the Netflix documentary

minimalism. And I'm sitting down with creators to talk about their process, the lessons they've

learned, and how to make an impact. So as you guys know in this podcast, I talk with guests about their stories, their ground-up stories, how they built something from nothing, how they turned their lives around.

And it's kind of interesting because we made a documentary together called Minimalism.

And that's like our ground-up show, basically.

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