If you were on the outside looking in, you'd be like, this guy's got a good life, but on the inside, I was dying.

It was like this whole time I'd been trying to jam this square peg into a round hole.

I was deeply dissatisfied with my career choices.

It was feeling like a low-grade depression.

I wasn't taking care of myself physically.

I'd put on all this weight and terrible

lifestyle habits. Is this the rest of my life? That's Rich Roll. He's an ultra endurance athlete,

author of the bestselling book Finding Ultra, and with more than 25 million downloads,

he's got one of the most popular podcasts in the world. In our conversation, we talk about the huge risks he took early on,

how he deals with pain,

and also how he became one of the 25 most fit men in the world.

You're listening to The Ground Up Show,

a podcast that inspires creatives to make meaningful content and pursue their passions.

My name's Matt Diavella, and I'm a filmmaker best known for the Netflix documentary minimalism.

And I'm sitting down with creators to talk about their process, the lessons they've learned, and how to make an impact.

Rich, thanks for being here.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, thank you for having me.

So we were talking a little bit before the podcast started about some of the video stuff

you're doing.

It seems like you're making moves there and you're starting to be really consistent with it.

Have you always done video?

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