I think there is some level of insanity in anybody who thinks they can change global

large-scale systems, or as a belief that you can do it where many others have failed.

And I think that's a prerequisite, right? Because if you believe you can't, then you're never

going to try. And so you have to have some of that level of naivete.

I am Vision Latiani, founder of Mind Valley, the School for Human Transformation.

You're listening to the Mind Valley podcast, where we'll be bringing you the greatest teachers

and thought leaders on the planet. It's got the world's most powerful ideas and personal growth

for my, body, spirit, and work. Peter, so it's so good to see you again. I love how casual

this interview is. For those of you who are listening, one of the things you can always count on on

these these calls is that you get to meet these legendary figures in their natural state.

And I guess this is your natural state, Peter. It's late at night here in Los Angeles,

and I'm at home and just relaxed and enjoying a chance to chat with a friend.

Peter, so quick question for you. I always thought every interview like this,

what gets you out of bed every morning? So a lot of things. First right now, my four-year-old

boy is giving me out of bed. I have two four-year-old, four and a half-year-old,

fraternal twin boys. So that's the start of the morning when I'm in town, which I

is unfortunately little too rare. But I am a kid in a candy store. I'm living my dreams,

pursuing the passions that I have with the companies that I'm doing. And I think we lived

during the most extraordinary time ever in human history, a time where we can make any of our

dreams come true, a time where we can go after the world's biggest challenges. And for me,

part of that, my two, three biggest themes right now driving me are opening up space,

passions into my childhood, extending the healthy human lifespan, and then attacking the world's

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