The Mind Company - Train Your Brain Like You Train Your Body
The Story of a Brand Show
Ramon Vela
4.9 • 147 Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Ramon Vela sits down with Dan Kessler, COO of The Mind Company, for a conversation that starts with a sobering question: what's actually happening to the human brain right now and what can we do about it?
The Mind Company is the only company in the world to win App of the Year twice, from both Apple and Google, and with three distinct apps — Elevate, Balance, and Spark — it's quietly building one of the most compelling mental fitness platforms in the world.
* The data behind the mental fitness crisis. Average attention spans have dropped from two and a half minutes to just 47 seconds in the last two decades. IQs are declining. Critical thinking is being outsourced to AI. Dan breaks down the numbers and why the stakes have never been higher.
* Three apps, one mission. Elevate sharpens cognitive skills through brain training games. Balance delivers highly personalized meditation, mindfulness, and sleep support. And Spark, the newest app, is a daily puzzle experience for curious people who want to learn something new every single day.
* Human creativity in a world of AI shortcuts. In an app store flooded with AI-generated products, The Mind Company builds everything with human editors, writers, and designers. Dan makes the case that judgment, taste, and creativity can't be automated and The Mind Company is proof.
* The right framework beats founder mode. Dan shares his management philosophy: give people responsibility before they've earned it, build clear decision-making frameworks, and trust your team to grow. It's how he's built every company he's been a part of.
* Mental fitness is the superpower nobody is talking about. Whether you're a founder, a parent, or just trying to stay sharp in a distracted world, Dan's message is clear: take care of your brain the way you take care of your body — and start now.
Join us in listening to this episode for a fascinating and genuinely thought-provoking conversation about the state of the human mind, what mental fitness actually means, and why the apps The Mind Company has built might be the most important ones on your phone.
To explore all three apps — Elevate, Balance, and Spark — available now on iOS and Android, visit The Mind Company: https://themindcompany.com/
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| 0:00.0 | We have that education now and people are doing stuff about it, right? |
| 0:03.0 | Gims did not exist 100 years ago. |
| 0:05.9 | People didn't go jogging for exercise 100 years ago because their day-to-day lives were very active, right? |
| 0:12.8 | You had to walk to the next town, right? |
| 0:14.7 | Or ride your horse or whatever. |
| 0:16.9 | Today, you're in cars and on buses and on airplanes and sitting in front of your desk and |
| 0:20.8 | on your couch and in your bed. |
| 0:22.6 | And so we need to actively improve our physical fitness. |
| 0:26.7 | Similarly, our nutrition has gotten worse. |
| 0:29.0 | Why? |
| 0:29.4 | Well, sugars and carbohydrates are very cheap, very easy to package and preserve. |
| 0:34.4 | And therefore, we can feed a lot of people with really bad food. And that was the |
| 0:39.8 | case for decades. And now people are becoming much more aware of what they're putting in their |
| 0:43.8 | bodies and what it's doing to their bodies. So much so that, you know, we have, you know, now elected |
| 0:51.7 | officials that are talking about this and we are looking at food deserts |
| 0:54.9 | and fixing them and that's really critical. |
| 0:57.2 | So we've had these revolutions for physical fitness and, you know, nutritional health, metabolic |
| 1:02.2 | health. |
| 1:03.2 | And we do believe that mental fitness is the next one and people are becoming very wise to it. |
| 1:23.6 | Hey, everyone. This is Ramon Bella. And this is another episode of the story of a brand. Like always, we have an amazing guest in brand that we're going to feature on today's show. |
| 1:27.5 | But before we do, imagine 100 influencers constantly talking about your brand. Sounds great, right? |
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