This is the Popular Front podcast with me Jake Hanrahan. We're focused on the niche details of modern warfare and underreported conflict all across the world.

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Today we're speaking to Tom Lord, really good guy.

He's a writer and researcher for Militant Wire.

He's going to be talking to us about these kind of bizarre terrorist designations that

the US Trump administration has handed out to various militant anti-fired groups in Europe.

We'll be getting into the nitty-gritty of what they're about and why they might have been designated.

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So for the last couple of months, the Trump administration, Trump himself as well,

are being alluding to this idea that they want to designate, quote, unquote,

antifa, a terror organization. Now, obviously, anyone that understands the history and the kind of movement and ideology of Antifa or Antifa, as the USA, either one is fine, whatever. But the way that is, it's not the sort of thing

you can just designate. Of course, there are groups within this ideology, this kind of militant,

violent attacks against fascists. But I think since it went to the U.S., it became something

very different. You know, I know for a fact that a lot of

kind of legacy European anti-fair groups, they look very different in what they do and what they

believe in their makeup to, for example, like what might be considered US anti-fire. Not that there's,

you know, it's not neither good nor bad.

It just is.

It's different.

So I think as well with the kind of way that America understands the world,

and I don't mean this is a knock on at all.

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