Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration,

on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

trying to sell a prototype of the world's first drum machine on Etsy, or else a scrappy upstart, making a Trent Resner level drum sequence on a free iPhone app, this is your show, because ultimately, it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing

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