you see what we did there guys that was that was kind of cool right shout to

a big John created some graphics just for tonight we're in the metaverse now

I don't know if you could tell Ben is six inches shorter I am 20 pounds lighter

I'm taller. Yeah, well, I just I can shrink you too

Matthew balls with us tonight and Matthew has a crazy

CV which I'm not gonna read all of his many accomplishments and affiliations

But I want it no, no, no, but let me get to a few just to set this up because you're very well-known in

corporate America and amongst venture capitalists my audience is like

Individual investors professional investors financial advisors, and I don't think that they have had as much exposure to you as maybe

A lot of the groups that you've been talking to about your new book. So let me let me set you up nicely

Matthew ball is the managing partner of Epilion co

Which operates an early stage venture fund as well as corporate and venture advisory arm

You're also a venture partner at Makers Fund, which is the world's largest gaming venture by AUM

You advise KKR. I know you've done a ton of corporate consulting and a lot of the

Fortune 500 CEOs have you on speed dial very famously you wrote about Disney as a service and

Bob Iger called you up and said how could you be giving this away? We would have paid you

$10 millions of dollars for this so you've got like a really great career

Associated with with churnin and

You've written for the New York Times the economist Bloomberg

We're going to talk about your piece at time magazine, but your new book

Coming out now is focused on the metaverse which interestingly is on the tip of everyone's tongue and

This is from your recent piece, which I think is adapted from your your book

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