The Messiah and his Kittens (Pt 3) - The turnstile system
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The Times
3.9 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 11 February 2022
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Warning: This episode includes explicit sexual references from the start.
In the third episode of this four part series, a former male member of the cult threatens legal action over his interview. Also, we relive the moment the organisation was finally brought down.
In January last year, the leader of Turkey's most powerful cult was sentenced to over 1,000 years in prison. But what happened?
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Host: Louise Callaghan, Middle East Correspondent at The Sunday Times.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, it's Manvine here. |
| 0:02.4 | Today's episode is the third of our four-part series about the rise and fall of Turkey's most powerful cult. |
| 0:10.5 | Hosted by my colleague Louise Callaghan, the Middle East correspondent for the Sunday Times, |
| 0:15.5 | this is part three of the Messiah and his kittens. |
| 0:20.4 | Before we begin, a warning that some listeners might find what you're about to hear distressing. |
| 0:25.6 | There are also explicit sexual references from the beginning. |
| 0:30.7 | Last time on The Messiah and His Kittens. |
| 0:35.7 | The leader has these two qualities, charisma and authoritarianism. |
| 0:39.8 | They also cut people off from each other in interesting ways within the group. |
| 0:44.8 | They isolate you. |
| 0:46.9 | It is like a toxic relationship. |
| 0:49.2 | We were not allowed to talk among ourselves either. |
| 0:53.3 | He started to realize if he involves women in this, a lot of people watch it, and he's |
| 0:58.8 | going to be popular. |
| 1:00.7 | All the male members of this organization's committed financial crimes, sexual crimes. |
| 1:06.3 | It was disgusting. |
| 1:20.4 | So can you tell me about how you first got into recruiting women to the group? |
| 1:26.7 | So it developed slowly. |
| 1:30.1 | The trick was to get close to a woman. |
| 1:32.7 | First, you become a boyfriend. |
| 1:37.1 | To do that, you have to present yourself as a rich and decent man. |
| 1:39.3 | You have to be a prince charming. |
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